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This holds true for the Chess Genius/Millennium Chess System, where Chess genius and Shredder cannot be used in Winboard. [Note a Winboard version of Shredder 3.0 might exist by entering a secret code but it's not a official product.] This holds true for the Chess Genius/Millennium Chess System, where Chess genius and Shredder cannot be used in Winboard. [Note a Winboard version of Shredder 3.0 might exist by entering a secret code but it's not a official product.]
-For a clear explanation of protocols and chess engines see my [[confusion.html| article ]] FIXME (link)+For a clear explanation of protocols and chess engines see [[computer_chess:wiki:chess_protocols | my article]].
-The latest version of [[http://www.chessmaster.com|Chessmaster8000®]] and newer versions now supports Winboard engines as well. Unlike Fritz, Chessmaster®'s engine //works// outside of the Chessmaster® program because it is a Winboard engine. However because of security measures built into the program it will run in Winboard but will move instantly regardless of time remaining, making it effectively useless. There is a workaround method. See [[Winboard:FAQ:Part_D | Winboard FAQ, Part_D]], Section [D.3]+[[http://www.chessmaster.com|Chessmaster8000®]] and newer versions now supports Winboard engines as well. Unlike Fritz, Chessmaster®'s engine //works// outside of the Chessmaster® program because it is a Winboard engine. However because of security measures built into the program it will run in Winboard but will move instantly regardless of time remaining, making it effectively useless. There is a workaround method. See [[Winboard:FAQ:Part_D | Winboard FAQ, Part_D]], Section [D.3]
-Some interfaces (chess server clients, databases, playing programs) that allow Winboard compatible engines to run in them include +Some interfaces (chess server clients, databases, playing programs) that allow Winboard compatible engines to run in them include: 
- +  * [[http://www.bookup.com/ | Bookup]] 
-FIXME (verify following links) +  * [[http://flagrantdisregard.com/checkmate/ | Checkmate]][Free Chess server Client] 
-  * [[http://www.bookup.com/|Bookup 2000]] +  * [[http://www.chess-academy.com/english/catalog_ca7.htm | ChessAcademy]] 
-  * [[http://www.bluepaul.com/|Blue Dragon]][Shareware]. +  * [[http://store.convekta.com/shop_model.asp?gid=62&sView=Catalog | Chess Assistant]]
-  * [[http://flagrantdisregard.com/checkmate/|Checkmate]][Free Chess server Client] +
-  * [[http://www.chessacademy.de/en/index_en.htm|ChessAcademy]] +
-  * [[http://www.chessassistant.com/|Chess Assistant]]+
  * [[http://www.chessbase.com|Chessbase]]   * [[http://www.chessbase.com|Chessbase]]
  * [[http://www.chesscat.loncarek.de/sitemap.html|ChessCat]][Free PGN reader]   * [[http://www.chesscat.loncarek.de/sitemap.html|ChessCat]][Free PGN reader]
-  * [[http://www.chessgenius.com/pc/index.html|Chess Genius 7\\ ]] +  * [[http://www.chessgenius.com/pc/index.html | Chess Genius 7]] 
-  * [[http://www.chessmaster.com|Chessmaster8000®]] +  * [[http://www.chessmaster.com | Chessmaster®]] 
-  * [[http://www.wmlsoftware.com/chesspad.html|Chesspad]][Free Chess database] +  * [[http://www.wmlsoftware.com/chesspad.html | Chesspad]][Free Chess database] 
-  * [[http://www.lokasoft.nl/uk/ChessPartner4.htm|Chess Partner]] +  * [[http://www.lokasoft.nl/chesspartner.htm | Chess Partner]] 
-  * [[http://www.microvision.nl|ChessVision]] +  * [[http://www.bergo.eng.br/eboard/ | Eboard ]][Free Chess Server Client]
-  * [[http://eboard.sourceforge.net/| Eboard ]][Free Chess Server Client+
-  * [[http://www.knights-chess.com/index.php| Knights ]][Free Chess Server Client] +
-  * [[http://www.mailchess.de/engl/mce.html|MailChess]][Email correspondence tool]+
  * [[http://scid.sourceforge.net|SCID]] [Free database]   * [[http://scid.sourceforge.net|SCID]] [Free database]
-  * For a table showing popular [[interface.html| GUI and their support of Winboard,UCI and Chessbase protocols.]] FIXME (link)+Here is a complete table showing all popular [[computer_chess:wiki:lists:gui_protocol_support_list | Chess GUIs]] and their support of Winboard, UCI, and Chessbase protocols.
-Implementation of Winboard protocol in the commercials GUIs varies, and as such many Winboard engines work poorly or fail to work at all when used in them. However, some authors of Winboard programs[ [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_yacedetail.html | Yace]], [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_gandalfdetail.html | Gandalf ]], etc.] have modified their program to allow them to work smoothly in some or all of these interfaces.+Implementation of Winboard protocol in the commercial GUIs varies, and as such many Winboard engines work poorly or fail to work at all when used in them. However, some authors of Winboard programs[ [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_yacedetail.html | Yace]], [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_gandalfdetail.html | Gandalf]], etc.] have modified their program to allow them to work smoothly in some or all of these interfaces.
For the Chessbase line of products , "Native" or specially compiled versions of certain Winboard programs [ [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_craftydetail.html | Crafty]], [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_exchessdetail.html | Exchess]], [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_inmichessdetail.html | ImniChess]], [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_failedetail.html | Faile ]], etc] are available. Such native versions generally run without any problem. They are available for download at [[http://www.chessbase.com/download/index.asp?cat=Engines|Chessbase]] . For the Chessbase line of products , "Native" or specially compiled versions of certain Winboard programs [ [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_craftydetail.html | Crafty]], [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_exchessdetail.html | Exchess]], [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_inmichessdetail.html | ImniChess]], [[http://www.quarkchess.de/html/body_failedetail.html | Faile ]], etc] are available. Such native versions generally run without any problem. They are available for download at [[http://www.chessbase.com/download/index.asp?cat=Engines|Chessbase]] .
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For other Winboard engines, you will have to use the winboard adaptor. For more refer to [[Winboard:FAQ:Part_E | Winboard FAQ,Part_E]], Section [E.1] For other Winboard engines, you will have to use the winboard adaptor. For more refer to [[Winboard:FAQ:Part_E | Winboard FAQ,Part_E]], Section [E.1]
-As mentioned before this doesn't always work. It is, however, beyond the scope of this faq to discuss such problems. A list of verified programs that work and a discussion of the various problems under different interfaces can be found [[gui.html|here]] FIXME (link) . See [[Winboard:FAQ:Part_E | Winboard FAQ,Part_E]] of the faq.+As mentioned before this doesn't always work. It is, however, beyond the scope of this faq to discuss such problems. A list of verified programs that work and a discussion of the various problems under different interfaces can be found [[gui.html | here]] FIXME (link) . See [[Winboard:FAQ:Part_E | Winboard FAQ,Part_E]] of the faq.
===== [A.10] What about Ferret, Insomniac etc ? Are they Winboard compatible? Where can I get them? ===== ===== [A.10] What about Ferret, Insomniac etc ? Are they Winboard compatible? Where can I get them? =====
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  * [[http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.fankk/|KKFchess]] plays wild, atomic, suicide (FICS rules) and crazyhouse   * [[http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.fankk/|KKFchess]] plays wild, atomic, suicide (FICS rules) and crazyhouse
-  * [[http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/8203/giveaway.zip|Giveaway Wizard]] which plays suicide/losing/giveaway Chess.+  * [[http://www.chessvariants.com/programs.dir/giveaway.zip | Giveaway Wizard]] shareware program that plays suicide/losing/giveaway Chess.
  * [[http://sunsetter.sourceforge.net| Sunsetter ]] - A modified and stronger Deep bug.Now also plays normal chess.   * [[http://sunsetter.sourceforge.net| Sunsetter ]] - A modified and stronger Deep bug.Now also plays normal chess.
  * {{../graphics/new.gif?31x12|new}}[04-03-2002][[http://holandany.20m.com/Holand03.htm| Daefo ]] -Plays a Czech version of Crazyhouse.   * {{../graphics/new.gif?31x12|new}}[04-03-2002][[http://holandany.20m.com/Holand03.htm| Daefo ]] -Plays a Czech version of Crazyhouse.
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Given all the confusion over chess960 castling rules,representation of position and until now in Shredder Classic, a standard interface that supports this variant, it's hard to tell which engines will work in any of the interfaces. Given all the confusion over chess960 castling rules,representation of position and until now in Shredder Classic, a standard interface that supports this variant, it's hard to tell which engines will work in any of the interfaces.
-Certainly, the engines that took part in the first Chess960 world championship play the variant, but it's unclear if they work in any of the above interfaces. These include [[http://userfs.cec.wustl.edu/%7Elwr1/| Betty]] . [[http://home.wanadoo.nl/richard.pijl/|The Baron]] ,[[http://www.winboard.info/chispa/| Chispa ]], [[http://www.fzibi.com/pharaon.htm| Pharaon]] ,[[http://www.milix.net/aice/downloads.html|Aice]], [[http://www.fruitchess.com/|Fruit 2.2]] [[http://www.geocities.com/ruleren/frenzee.html|Frenzee]], Hermann and [[http://www.math.uio.no/%7Eromstad/gothmog/gothmog.html| Gothmog ]]. You can find others in the Arena's listing of chess engines ,see link here [[#%5BA.5%5D|here]].+Certainly, the engines that took part in the first Chess960 world championship play the variant, but it's unclear if they work in any of the above interfaces. These include [[http://userfs.cec.wustl.edu/%7Elwr1/| Betty]] . [[http://home.wanadoo.nl/richard.pijl/|The Baron]] ,[[http://www.winboard.info/chispa/| Chispa ]], [[http://www.fzibi.com/pharaon.htm| Pharaon]] ,[[http://www.milix.net/aice/downloads.html|Aice]], [[http://www.fruitchess.com/|Fruit 2.2]] [[http://www.computerskak.dk/ | Frenzee]], Hermann and [[http://www.math.uio.no/%7Eromstad/gothmog/gothmog.html| Gothmog ]]. You can find others in the Arena's listing of chess engines ,see link here [[#%5BA.5%5D|here]].
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